Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.05.2011
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Pete DeBoer officially confirmed that Ilya Kovalchuk was playing nowhere close to 100 percent in the playoffs. Not really news to most of us, but I figured I'd put this in here.
Not many Russians do... |
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Not many Russians do... - Habfan in Leafland
i see what ya did there. although ill largely give kovy a pass here. he actually did a lot through these playoffs as it was |
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Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2010
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Not many Russians do... - Habfan in Leafland
oh good, we've got a nationalist in here already. |
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How does it make any sense at all keeping the pick? This is as bad as the pick could possibly get. You really think they'll win the cup next year cause that's the only way this makes any sense. |
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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.05.2011
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oh good, we've got a nationalist in here already. - Pomegrant
Not good. Not good. |
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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.05.2011
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How does it make any sense at all keeping the pick? This is as bad as the pick could possibly get. You really think they'll win the cup next year cause that's the only way this makes any sense. - nhaneo
What's the difference in 29th overall this year and say 25th overall next year? The 29th overall will be a good prospect and already have a year of development. That's how it makes sense. |
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Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2010
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What's the difference in 29th overall this year and say 25th overall next year? The 29th overall will be a good prospect and already have a year of development. That's how. - Todd.Cordell
This draft is supposed to have a lot of defense prospects, right? Our defense isn't incredibly old but by the time a defensive prospect drafted from this year is developed Tallinder and Volchenkov will be gone and Andy Greene is going to be much older. Merrill is a good prospect but he's still just that. We don't really have any young NHL talent in the back end except for Larsson. |
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Sharks_12
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: *Not Getting The Bit* Regina, SK Joined: 10.03.2007
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The Devils pick will pick 29th in this year's draft and could only have had a lower pick if they had won the Cup. Drafts are hard to predict and while it doesn't seem like it will be a really weak draft, it doesn't seem like it will be that strong of a draft either. The circimstances could almost not be better for them to give up their first round pick.
This move strikes me as an "F You" to the league. Lou didn't like the league's decision to punish his team. I think it is out of pride that he will not voluntarily give up one of his first round picks. Instead of cutting his losses he'd rather be forced to give up the pick against his will in 2014, even though that will very likely be a higher pick than this year's.
While Devils fans have confidence their team will do well, there is always the chance they have a setback year. For example, what if Parise leaves, Brodeur retires/regresses and one of their big players (like Kovalchuk) got injured? You never know what could happen. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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What's the difference in 29th overall this year and say 25th overall next year? The 29th overall will be a good prospect and already have a year of development. That's how. - Todd.Cordell
The real problem comes up when Parise leaves, Kovalchuk ends up out 6 months with back surgery and Brodeur plays as well as he did in 10-11.
With that being said this isn't a shock and I don't think too many GM's would do it differently. Lou is worried about the now not the future, he might not be the GM the year NJ ends up giving the pick up so what would he care? At least they'll add a prospect now and start early development.
Or maybe he knows that he can make a deal moving this year's pick getting an extra pick next year and then some.
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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.05.2011
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This draft is supposed to have a lot of defense prospects, right? Our defense isn't incredibly old but by the time a defensive prospect drafted from this year is developed Tallinder and Volchenkov will be gone and Andy Greene is going to be much older. Merrill is a good prospect but he's still just that. We don't really have any young NHL talent in the back end except for Larsson. - Pomegrant
There's some forward prospects that could be had around there that I really, really like. Some good goaltenders if they want to go that route, too. Doubt they'll take a goalie, though. |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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Silly move by Parise, at least stay mum if that's your feeling & use the Rangers to help drive up your price. And it should be noted also that Scott Gomez said similiar things about not going to the Rangers before he went UFA in 07 & we know how that turned out. |
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Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2010
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The real problem comes up when Parise leaves, Kovalchuk ends up out 6 months with back surgery and Brodeur plays as well as he did in 10-11.
With that being said this isn't a shock and I don't think too many GM's would do it differently. Lou is worried about the now not the future, he might not be the GM the year NJ ends up giving the pick up so what would he care? At least they'll add a prospect now and start early development.
Or maybe he knows that he can make a deal moving this year's pick getting an extra pick next year and then some. - Lahey
Lou isn't just the GM of the Devils. He's the president, and a couple of other things that slips my mind. He isn't the kind of person to say that he doesn't care about the team if he's not involved because the Devils is basically his franchise. He might not be the owner or part of the owning group but he's the only reason why this franchise has been successful. You might still be seeing 80's level Devils out there if Lou didn't devote his life to the franchise. |
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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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Im betting Lou is holding out for this new CBA thing to go through and to try and get a pass at circumvention. He's gonna try and not have to give up any picks. |
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Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: NJ Joined: 01.18.2010
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There's some forward prospects that could be had around there that I really, really like. Some good goaltenders if they want to go that route, too. Doubt they'll take a goalie, though. - Todd.Cordell
I suppose the prospect pool is extremely thin at forward. Makes sense to draft some.
Only reason goalie doesn't make sense is because we already have three goalies eligible to play in the AHL. |
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bobert836
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC Joined: 06.19.2010
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Silly move by Parise, at least stay mum if that's your feeling & use the Rangers to help drive up your price. And it should be noted also that Scott Gomez said similiar things about not going to the Rangers before he went UFA in 07 & we know how that turned out. - B2B76
ya but I think we can all agree that Parise is a completely different person then Gomez is |
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oilersfanatic
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: City Of "next year", AB Joined: 10.20.2007
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Devils are keeping the pick just to deal it at the draft anyways |
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p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.20.2007
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Silly move by Parise, at least stay mum if that's your feeling & use the Rangers to help drive up your price. And it should be noted also that Scott Gomez said similiar things about not going to the Rangers before he went UFA in 07 & we know how that turned out. - B2B76
Trust me...he won't need the Rangers to drive up his price. There will be plenty of suitors minus NYR for his services. Just sucks that you guys now know full out how he feels about signing with you guys. |
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I thought this years draft is weak... and next years draft is supposively deeper... YOu will never get the 29th pick next year you will be picking higher - book it... I find this absolutely amazing... I guess in LOU you trust.... |
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bobert836
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC Joined: 06.19.2010
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Devils are keeping the pick just to deal it at the draft anyways - oilersfanatic
or before, but thats what my moneys on |
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B2B76
New York Rangers |
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Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY Joined: 08.14.2008
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ya but I think we can all agree that Parise is a completely different person then Gomez is - bobert836
Without question |
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mhowitzer
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Central Jersey Joined: 02.10.2009
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I thought this years draft is weak... and next years draft is supposively deeper... YOu will never get the 29th pick next year you will be picking higher - book it... I find this absolutely amazing... I guess in LOU you trust.... - saskoil21
No one would have said we would have had the 29th pick this year so hold off on saying we will "never" have it next year or the year after....
new CBA coming...Lou probably is going to give it a shot to have the punishment dropped....even if that doesnt work there isnt much of a difference between 29 this year and 25 two years from now.....once you get outside the top 10 on a normal draft year its a shot in the dark pretty much |
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beleaf4ever
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: You know you're a hockey fan w, ON Joined: 09.11.2008
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LOL Schultz signing with the devils? Or edmonton or vancouver... its the worst kept secret in the NHL he will be a leaf come July 1st or before if Murray and Burke work out a deal for his rights.
He wants to play with his buddy gardiner. |
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dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ Joined: 03.07.2011
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Interestingly Lou said the deadline for the pick is today hmmm |
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RyanGetzPerry
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Barrie, ON Joined: 08.10.2011
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Meet Daniil Zharkov, men. |
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